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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  i'm sure the world is flat--so i wont go to near the edge in case i fall off. But i also have faith that an angel would catch me if i do.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  ex bethelite etc

  you keep mentioning HOPE: hope in/of what exactly? are you afraid of the future ?
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  Symposium Talk : Watchtower Society show their appreciation for the Buettell's

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/xcgyp-h60xk?si=tvojbxouldf9jxwp.

  governing body member samuel herd gives a symposium talk: love for jehovah in modern times at the 2023 annual meeting of jehovah's witnesses.

  at the 11 minute mark of the symposium, we meet (100 year old) brother david buettell and his ( 98 year old wife) phylis.

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  this "symposium" thing

  here in the UK nobody i knew had any idea what it meant--so it became the thing for the public talk to be divided up between several speakers.

  I'm sure the other UK members here will have heard this old one from back then---speaker #3 had fallen asleep when his turn came--so wife gives him an elbow in his ribs--he jerks awake--jumps up and delivers a closing prayer.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  if all the congregations were 100% on zoom--no need for any KHs. Food for thought eh watchtower ?
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  If you were to design a new religion?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

  it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

  very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

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  Yes of course especially if you think the Bible is an interesting book that has at least some value

  it does ! My driveway slopes downwards--a bible would make a good chock to stop my car rolling away.
  
  
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  If you were to design a new religion?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

  it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

  very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

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  is it ok for atheists to be members of this new shadow jw religion ?
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  Can the Watchtower Society survive without time reports?

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there has already been much discussion about how the watchtower society has declared in australia that going door to door is part of a personal ministry.

  this seems to be a lame attempt to avoid liability considering that they require time reports and have formal meetings for field service at the kingdom hall.. this is a bit of a dilemma.

  reporting time and formal meetings for field service are important methods of control, however it's not clear if the organization is willing or able to handle the potential liability that may come from this.. imagine what would happen if they lost these methods of control.

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  i foresee this will mean a huge expansion in the numbers reporting:

  Brothers--the results are breathtaking--over 7 million publishers ticked the box to say they were actively witnessing--last year there were none !
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  Food at the Proper Time

  by Alpaca in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ya' know....as i listen to the great music of my youth from the 60s & 70s ... i've reached the inescapable conclusion that the "food at the proper time" came from simon & garfunkel, the grateful dead, jimi hendrix, led zeppelin, pete seeger, bob dylan, hot tuna, steve winwood and hundreds of other incredible musical philosophers!!!

  i can honestly say that my life has been enriched.. i am barreling toward 70 years on this planet and i still get goose bumps listening to the music & lyrics that perfectly capture life's eternal truths.

  at that time in my life i had "one foot in the world" spent a lot of time listening to that classic music with "worldly" friends who were there for me when i finally walked out of the fog of dubdom in the late 1990's.

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  just for you--

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueuoz3IX0Q
  
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  Time, times and half a time - nerd time

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, the famous 607 calculation to 1914 involves the above prophecy.

  the common explanation is that time is one unit, times is an unsubstantiated number of units.. to prove you can make it say any date, we must write it as a formula:.

  date = t + nt + 0.5t where n >= 2. so simplified:.

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  Its like: how many beans make 5 ?

  ( 1 bean 2 bean bean n half and half a bean )
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  I’m not sure what this means!

  by NeedsProof in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i was visited by 2 witnesses, and we had a long chat about lots of things!

  one of them named claire took the lead and i instantly felt some sort of connection to her, after we had spoken and they had left i started to have this overwhelming feeling to research her and what she had spoken about but i couldn’t find her anywhere on any website or social media, so i left it and thought nothing more of it all day….

  however the strange thing is i had a dream that night and claire was in it, many things happened in this dream that i was told i was only allowed to speak about with claire, i can speak of the dream to others but the details only me and claire can know!

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  Best not mention it to the wife.